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Fake Pagans.
Can't live with them, and yes we could easily live without them.


Welcome to Playgans the psychotic rantings of the Exhibit A: [Delladreing]. Formed out of sheer madness and frustration Playgans was born out of a love for religion and genuine faith, mixed in with a healthy dosage of psychosis and religious zeal enough to make even the most devout fundamentalist feel ashamed.


The rant began in the year of 2004 and is still going strong. During this time Playgans has come under fire and been branded as a "hate site", Dela herself has been tainted with the foulness of such accusations.
The aim of Playgans was never to incite or promote religious hatred. The aim of Playgans was to educate the masses, the fakers found on the web, and to give those serious about their faith in the pagan world a place to come and have a bit of a chat. So far it has been working well and we now have a wider branch of readers than we ever had before. The fact that the site contains a lot of references to violence, and psychosis does not mean that the content found within is hate mongering. It is merely [Delladreing]'s style of writing. And mindset. (Heh.)


At this point she would like to thank all of those that have shown her project such support. Had there not been so much support and loyalty from readers she would have allowed Playgans to fade away a long time ago. Thank you to all of you :)


Playgans News
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To go back in time, click the Playgans News Archive.
Please note any important news will be added to the bottom of the wiki in bold.


NEWS PREVIEW:
dear diary....


And now, on with the ranting:


-The Original Rant.

The pebble that started the avalanche.



Vaguely educational, the things you really ought to read:


-The Term "Playgan"   -Definition of a Real Wiccan   -You Might Be a Playgan if...
-Further Reading   -Further Further Reading


-Setting the Myths Straight   -Pentacle/Pentagram Which Is It?   -OMG! i h3xx0rz u!  
-Jeeves! Bring me my gun...   -So you're a vampyre huh?


-Faffing hell...   -Its all in the name...   -Religious tolerance...


Frothing at the mouth seizure induced ranting:


-"Omg I pwn u!"...o rly?   -Oh no...   -Fuck the What?  
-So you've seen 'The Craft'?   -The Witch is Back


*NEW*
The Commercialist Witch

 


Some Wiccan texts and explanations of their origins etc etc.
-The Ardanes- Gerald Gardner
-The Full Wiccan Rede- Doreen Valiente
-Charge of the Goddess - Doreen Valiente
-Charge of the God-Doreen Valiente
-Witches Rune - Doreen Valiente
-Witches Creed - Doreen Vaiente


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-Members of Playgans Join! :)
-Playgans: FAQ Ask questions.
-Playgans banners Advertise me bitches!





*Stagger, sway, crumples to the ground and lays there twitching*
As you can see, we've had a major epic overhaul of vast proportions. Now witness the fire power of this fully armed and operational battle station fine lines and the smoothness of the layout. No more ocd inducing amount of STUFF crammed in to one page. (gottafixitgottafixitgottafixit) And it's only taken me five months. Aha ahahahah ahahahahahahah ahem heh hmm...Although you may think you know some of these rants well, please note that although I've used the same title for a lot of things, I have actually, in some cases rewritten the entire thing. So please, go have another read. Anything currently missing, such as the fanart, fansongs etc etc will be put back in at a later date. Now if you'll excuse me, I'm going to go over in to that corner and die

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2005-07-18 [Delladreing]: O.o

2005-07-19 [a faerie tale]: *gasp* Help....me.....*gasp*

2005-07-19 [Fuu]: *pulls Faerie away from Celtic's smuthering hug* Better?

2005-07-19 [Zab]: ::walks in after hugging-party is finished:: Hi.

2005-07-19 [Azuri]: Oo scaryness

2005-07-20 [Fuu]: lol

2005-07-20 [Zab]: HI!!! ^___^

2005-07-20 [sezmo lex]: any good ideas to combat sunburn!really bad sunburn?

2005-07-20 [hanhepi]: Solarcaine. spray on stuff that numbs the skin.

2005-07-20 [a faerie tale]: Oh yes, much. Thank you Fuu.

2005-07-21 [Fuu]: welcome faerie, and sezmo use aftersun

2005-07-21 [Azuri]: Aloe Vera works well or any lotion that has it in it

2005-07-21 [a faerie tale]: Aloe lotion works fantabulously. However, don't use something with funky perservatives in it.

2005-07-21 [Azuri]: yea funky perservatives are bad^.^

2005-07-21 [Fuu]: yea they are.

2005-07-25 [a faerie tale]: Because it can leave rashes... And lal the chamomile in the world can't fix it. Becuase it is super rash.

2005-07-25 [Rondel]: I tend to lean toward aloe, not that this information is timely... ...also, black tea is really good. Buy the cheap teabags, and brew it strong -- then use the tea as a poultice, and the teabags themselves can be placed directly on the worst bits. It's the tannins that help. Looks silly, but most folks have access to it. Like all burns, avoid butter, or any oily product. Baking soda dissolved in water may help, too, and of course cooling the area (which can be done with either the aloe juice or the cold tea compresses). My turn -- anyone know what to do for chemical burns/skin ulcers caused by a sensitive person exuding a chemical toxin out through their skin, after an exposure? :(

2005-07-25 [Rondel]: Failing all else, healing energy directed toward my husband ([BarleySinger]) would be gratefully welcomed. I don't normally ask, but this is bad stuff, folks, and the doctors are scared he'll react badly to the further chemical exposures involved in a hospital visit. We've been using peroxide, tea tree oil (melaleuca), manuka honey (UMF 10), and bandages, but the worst one's pretty edematous -- they look like "road rash" from a motorcycle accident where someoene wasn't wearing their leathers. I've got pics online, if anyone wants to see something that also works as an appetite surpressant... :( ...anyway, positive energy request made, we now return you to the existing thread. *worries*

2005-07-25 [Zab]: I hope he´ll be allright, and soon.

2005-07-25 [Delladreing]: [Rondel] you both have my thoughts and prayers, I have called in a favor from the local circle too, I may be solitary but I have my contacts all over the UK :) they will also direct healing energy his way. I really do hope things improve for him.

2005-07-25 [hanhepi]: ive had lots of luck with onions applied to burn areas for chemical burns.. but only when burned from outside... they say onion is a blood purrifier though, so it might help if he eats one...

2005-07-25 [Delladreing]: garlic is too

2005-07-25 [Fuu]: [Rondel] I send my prayers to both you and your husband. I have spoken to my sisters and they will send healing energy in your husbands direction.

2005-07-25 [Tails Of the Revolution]: Best wishes to you both, Rondel. We'll offer him energy here in CO as well.

2005-07-25 [Azuri]: [Rondel]I'll send my prayers out to you and your husband too. hopefully he gets better really soon

2005-07-26 [a faerie tale]: Horseradish it good for burns too....

2005-07-26 [Rondel]: A) Thank you all. These things are scary looking, and while the smaller ones (where the toxin was only being shoved out through *ONE* pore) seem to be healing, the big one (which lost the skin over an area the size of two of my fingers put together, and blistered over a larger area than that, is taking its own sweet time, and still weeping weird black stuff. Whatever the heck this exposure was, it must have been bad for his body to reject it this way, trying to shove it straight out through his skin like this. I hate Environmental Illness. Before this, I thought it was bad when my entire fingerprint blistered up and fell off from touching newsprint, or inhalants made me stop breathing -

2005-07-26 [Rondel]: - but this is like both of those together, because it was caused by some sort of airborne exposure, and it's caused the loss of the entire epidermis, down to the layer of capillaries. Scary stuff. B) I told my husband about the kind response many of you have sent, and he also says thank you -- but adds that if you're going to go that far out of your way on his/our behalf, would you mind throwing in a request for housing, too? He can deal with the pain better with a roof over his head, and so far, we haven't been able to find any suitable housing in this *STATE*. We just found a doc who actually knows what they're doing, in treating us, and we don't want to have to move to another state,

2005-07-26 [Rondel]: not while his/our health is so unstable. It's taken us 6 years just to find the doctors we now have, a GP who'll take us seriously and not try to push treatments on us that our bodies won't tolerate, and now at last a pain/MCS specialist who does actual bloodwork, and knows what to look for, and who to trust to get useful results on the tests. We *REALLY* don't want to lose this guy, we've just found him, and just started to come closer to getting my husband's pain managed -- and maybe even get mine controlled to the point where I can actually be active (like, leave the daybed where I spend my days -- something which we'd briefly achieved, before things took the last downward turn). {HUGS}

2005-07-26 [JWOlette]: me and my circle here in ohio send you prayers as well

2005-07-26 [Delladreing]: Of-course [Rondel], I'll phone one of the girls tonight and they can include that too. They wont mind, they know I wouldnt ask them if it wasn't important :) Which State are you in [Rondel] so I can get it on a map and then try to focus on it lol?

2005-07-26 [Azuri]: Will Defentitly pray for you.

2005-07-26 [a faerie tale]: Your in my prayers sweetie.

2005-07-26 [glayshard]: i read most of this, and personally i think there is nothing wrong with being pagan, i just dont like the watering down of ancient religions that wicca seems to do.

2005-07-26 [Delladreing]: *confused* where does it say anything agaisnt being a pagan? or am i reading that wrongly

2005-07-26 [glayshard]: I didnt say it did, im just posting an opion. That i dont see anything wrong with paganisam

2005-07-26 [Delladreing]: ah ok, i thought for a minute you were making reference to my rantings, i was wondering where the hell i had put that in lol

2005-07-26 [glayshard]: Yeah, it was a good read. I like the way it reflects the study you put into it

2005-07-26 [Delladreing]: *bows* Thank you :)

2005-07-27 [Fuu]: lol. We wuvvles Dela for her rantings *hugz Dela*

2005-07-27 [Fuu]: Oh b4 I forget if I don't comment for a while I am sorry, I am currently going through a "situation" with my new ex-boyfriend

2005-07-27 [JWOlette]: they are so very interesting

2005-07-27 [Azuri]: Ah you have a new ex boyfriend too sucks dont it

2005-07-27 [Rondel]: We're in South Australia, [Delladreing], and need housing in the Adelaide region (within an hour's drive, or so), if possible, in order to maintain access to our doctors. And, thanks, to all of you.

2005-07-27 [Delladreing]: Ok thank you m'dear :) and you are quite welcome

2005-07-27 [Fuu]: I shall pray for you as muchy as possible. ^_^ Don't worry Rondel, we're happy to help however we can.

2005-07-27 [JWOlette]: who me kitoko

2005-07-27 [CelticMoon]: whats the bizz what have i missed

2005-07-27 [CelticMoon]: you know me .... too lazy to read lol

2005-07-27 [Delladreing]: not too much, new rant up, and Rondel and her husband are in need of some thought and prayer, her husband is rather ill just now

2005-07-27 [sezmo lex]: who we praying for and why?

2005-07-28 [glayshard]: yeah im a little lost too

2005-07-28 [Delladreing]: [Rondel]'s husband is rather ill. She requested thoughts and healing energy for him and so that they might be able to stay near the dr who knows how to treat them

2005-07-28 [JWOlette]: i hope he will be ok me and my circle hav been prayin for them both since i found out

2005-07-28 [Rondel]: Actually, we're both seriously ill and disabled, but having all of the epidermal layers of skin falling off parts of his body as it forced inhaled toxins out through the pores was a bit shocking, even for us, and was what motivated my request for help and healing energy -- for which we are grateful, from ALL of you who have offered/sent it our direction. Pardon me if I'm a little less chipper than usual -- we just got back from our 3-hour-round-trip drive to and from the doctor's office, to get our latest monthly installment of the medicines that keep us alive (and, incidentally, able to care for our 8-year-old child, who is without friends or family on this continent, as we are, as well).

2005-07-28 [Rondel]: The housing issue is a need not only for housing near our doctors, but also that the housing be housing in which we can actually survive without losing our last shreds of health. That means (for those who find details useful focal points) no carpets (I stop breathing around dust & cleaning chemicals), plumbed rain/bore water (chlorinated tap water gives me chemical burns, makes me suicidal, & gives both adults severe migraines), & away from major pollution sources (such as city smog &/or agricultural chemicals). And yeah, it's all kind of horrifying & overwhelming & that's why it's not discussed in detail on our House pages here -- we'd rather not be such "downers" that nobody talks to us.

2005-07-28 [Linn Scarlett]: *frowns because she doesn't understand it completely* oh and hi too ^_^

2005-07-28 [Falx]: I'll add you to our prayer list.

2005-07-28 [Rondel]: Don't worry, most people don't understand Environmental Illness completely, even among the few members of the medical community who have a faint clue as to what they're dealing with... ...and to help us, all you need to understand is "may Ken's wounds heal quickly and well, may Ken and Rondel recover their health, and may they find suitable housing which they are fully able (physically, financially, and in every other way) to move to before their current lease runs out, within a functional distance of doctors who can provide them with the care they need". Throwing in a "may their family survive and flourish as a family unit, unbroken by illness or loss of any member" would be welcomed, too.

2005-07-28 [Linn Scarlett]: thank you *bows* i recently got bugged by one who thought it 'soo cool oh and you have a coven with friends? funky can i be in it! please! its so cool" *grumble grumble* one of my friends almost ripped her ashunder because she got majorly annoid >_<

2005-07-28 [a faerie tale]: Oh the silliness that are the teenagers who wish to be cool by joining a religion that they don't understand to even the slightest degree.

2005-07-28 [Linn Scarlett]: its all about learning *sighs* i admitt i am learning still everyday and by far do not hold the egoism that i have a good knowledge of what paganism in general and different sideways of it are....

2005-07-28 [Delladreing]: Heh who knew my rant of hatred and outright annoyance has become a community of family ties and caring for each other.

2005-07-28 [Linn Scarlett]: well its true anyway *lol* playgans? i never heard of that term, me and friends usually call them fakgans/fakegans (fake x pagan)

2005-07-28 [Delladreing]: "Playgan" one who plays at being a pagan

2005-07-28 [JWOlette]: yeah it kida odd itsnt it Dela

2005-07-28 [CelticMoon]: well now you have a better term ... that sounds quite politicly correct ... or whatever the piss that means these days lol

2005-07-28 [Delladreing]: lmao oh such a way with words

2005-07-28 [CelticMoon]: hehe i know i know im just .... whats the word ... gifted that way lol

2005-07-28 [Delladreing]: indeed :p

2005-07-28 [Linn Scarlett]: it came from a joke about really really plastic tasting bacon (called it Facon) and then we started about fake pagans and it became fakgan :P

2005-07-28 [CelticMoon]: ooooo clever ... clever lol

2005-07-28 [Linn Scarlett]: yes i know *ego boost ego boost8 :P

2005-07-28 [JWOlette]: its nice how we all come together when something like this happens to someone we know

2005-07-28 [Linn Scarlett]: isnt it wonderfull? :)

2005-07-28 [JWOlette]: yeah it really is

2005-07-29 [CelticMoon]: can you feel the looovvve in this room lol

2005-07-29 [Delladreing]: lol oh dear

2005-07-29 [Azuri]: Yay for the love:D

2005-07-30 [JWOlette]: *hides* toooo much love for me

2005-07-30 [Fuu]: O.oo.O Too much love? *hides* I'm scared...

2005-07-30 [Rondel]: Honestly, I think the reason I came here to ask for "help" on the whole healing/housing issue was because I knew that the folks here take their religion seriously enough that we aren't just going to be another excuse for a bunch of kids to play at magical power trips. I think that's probably part of what made this place acquire some of that community feeling -- people don't stay here if they aren't willing to go through the self-examination that says "is she talking about me?", and as a result, you get a more "grounded" group of people than y'r average open-to-the-public online pagan forum.

2005-07-30 [Delladreing]: Well now I think I will take that as a compliment ;)

2005-07-30 [Linn Scarlett]: which was the whole idea of elftown too, until those cyberers came >_< litterally

2005-07-30 [Delladreing]: bleh

2005-07-30 [Linn Scarlett]: jup

2005-07-30 [Angel of Shadows]: The cyberers and the people who send one word messages and try to keep a conversation going with "lol" are the ones who piss me off

2005-07-30 [Linn Scarlett]: lol

2005-07-30 [Linn Scarlett]: just kidding dont hit me ;)

2005-07-30 [Zab]: lol.( Ok, it´s old now..::sigh::) I stop answering..and then I feel bad about it..O_o

2005-07-30 [Linn Scarlett]: yeah me too

2005-07-30 [JWOlette]: ehh i just tell them that if they cant say more then lol then they need to stop messagin me it works sometime

2005-07-30 [Linn Scarlett]: yeah

2005-07-30 [JWOlette]: yep they tend to go bug someone more talerant

2005-07-31 [Rondel]: Oh, is that an attempt to keep a conversation going? I always thought it was a way to end one... <wry laugh>

2005-07-31 [Delladreing]: heh the really funny thing was the other day right as that was said i simply said "lol" to a conversation as i was in a hurry and then i looked on here teehee

2005-07-31 [Fuu]: lol. How interesting Dela

2005-07-31 [Linn Scarlett]: *adjusts halo* yeah and i had already looked her before i got the In A Hurry Message ;)

2005-07-31 [Delladreing]: hehehe yea, that made it even funnier

2005-08-01 [Fuu]: Okay, I know this will sound weird but do any of you know a way to make a person realize that they are being selfish and idiotic and lots of other things other then directly telling them. Because telling this person directly doesn't work, and he is cauing aggravation and pain to people I know, including myself.

2005-08-01 [JWOlette]: i know a spell that could help but im not sure if it will mess with someones free will or not

2005-08-01 [Fuu]: ...free will? I don't think he has any, he does EVERYTHING he is told. Trust me, I dated the guy. Now he is being selfish and well won't accept.

2005-08-01 [JWOlette]: i can send you the spell in the morning i dont feel like lookin for it if you want it

2005-08-01 [Delladreing]: you could always just light a white cnadle and pray that his "eyes be opened let him see, let him see the damage he causes, by the powers that be" i dont normally type things up like that on my wikis but i have given up on life today lol, im feeling very very ill indeed and i cannot be bothered just now -.-

2005-08-01 [Azuri]: OMG im being attacked left and right by turkish guys on both elftown and elfpack!!!!!!WTF this is absolute crazyness!Its Driving me insane!

2005-08-01 [Delladreing]: o.O! tell me there names on EP and I can ban them ;)

2005-08-01 [Azuri]: Give me a sec i have to go look and for some reason EP is slow on my computer

2005-08-01 [Delladreing]: bleh its a gimp ep

2005-08-01 [Azuri]: Yea but its lots of fun. acually i get mailed by the turkish the most on ET i had one tell me he loved me and he had seen me in his dreams and asked if i could ever love him....needless to say i blocked him...

2005-08-01 [Delladreing]: i got asked if they could make a video of me sucking on a certain aprt of his body and make him rich with a face like mine. i told him id gladly go near that part of his body, but only if i was allowed to do so with rusty scisors and a jar for pickling it in

2005-08-01 [Azuri]: Lol thats great

2005-08-01 [Delladreing]: funnily enough he stopped messaging me after that

2005-08-01 [Azuri]: Never would have guessed ^.^

2005-08-01 [Delladreing]: ;)

2005-08-01 [Azuri]: So Dela how has your morning been. I think i need more sleep but it aluds(SP?) me

2005-08-01 [Delladreing]: *eludes i believe. bleh could be better, i had a horrible night of being sick and then i called in sick to work, couldnt face it.

2005-08-01 [Azuri]: thanks. thats really crappy i hope you feel better soon

2005-08-01 [Delladreing]: thankee

2005-08-01 [Azuri]: speaking of sick i think im going to be it if i dont go get some more sleep so ill talk to you later

2005-08-01 [Delladreing]: night hun

2005-08-01 [a faerie tale]: I wish you a sound slumber.

2005-08-01 [CelticMoon]: ooo faerie tale that is a posh way of saying night night lol

2005-08-01 [Linn Scarlett]: dang O.o' *scared of the kazillion coments* what did i miss

2005-08-01 [a faerie tale]: Erm...not much Linn. Or, Miss Scarlett.  Thank you celtic. ^-^

2005-08-01 [Delladreing]: ever felt like youve just been ran over repeatedly and then trodden on by trained dancing elephants just for good measure?

2005-08-01 [a faerie tale]: Hmm...usually my elephants weren't trained. But yes. What's the matter Dela?

2005-08-01 [Delladreing]: ive been feeling ill all day, i dozed off there and now i feel worse

2005-08-01 [a faerie tale]: Oh dear....do you think it could be a cold or a flu bug of some sort?

2005-08-01 [Delladreing]: i dont know, earlier it was just my stomach, but now my entire body is sore :S

2005-08-01 [a faerie tale]: Have you tried some herbal remedies? It could be the heat, or a flu bug. Are you dehydrated? (Oooo...I care too much. >.<)

2005-08-01 [Delladreing]: bleh i cant take anything just now, im on a new treatment for my migraines and i cant take anything else >.<

2005-08-01 [a faerie tale]: gah. that sucks.

2005-08-01 [Azuri]: poor dela i hope you start feeling lots better soon

2005-08-01 [a faerie tale]: *huggles dela 'til she goes splat*

2005-08-01 [JWOlette]: i hope u feel better dela

2005-08-01 [Delladreing]: thankee :s *huggles*

2005-08-01 [a faerie tale]: Dela, would you mind if I did some shameless advertising for my wiki? *bambi face*

2005-08-01 [Delladreing]: nah on you go :p

2005-08-01 [a faerie tale]: Sweet. Alright, Recruiter Is a new wiki I'm starting to help open closets, and stop bigotry! ^-^ Please join and help meh!

2005-08-01 [a faerie tale]: (Or support meh)

2005-08-01 [Linn Scarlett]: gah what happened

2005-08-01 [a faerie tale]: erm..wha?

2005-08-02 [JWOlette]: is that kinda like a racist??

2005-08-02 [Linn Scarlett]: i think all things judging people on whatever they cant help (like sexual preferances, skin color etc) is racism O.o' scary but true... i always feel some twisted sort of pitty for thos prosicuted for their sexual preference (be they pedofiles or gay people)

2005-08-02 [JWOlette]: yeah i feel bad for everyone that is discrminated just cuz i know what its like

2005-08-02 [Linn Scarlett]: *nodds* everybody knows how it feels *sighs* ff course its kind of twisted, but i still feel sorry for them, i mean, they cant really help it that they dig kids do they? *just remembered that she digged older guys, like OLDER*

2005-08-02 [JWOlette]: they cant help it but i still feel really bad

2005-08-02 [Delladreing]: ...i am not going to say anything as i am only going to get angry

2005-08-02 [Linn Scarlett]: why? maybe its because i dont have kids of my own yet. i just feel really strongly about discrimination, and i feel pitty for those that get discriminated, for whatever reason

2005-08-02 [Delladreing]: "they cant help it if they like kids" we are talking about the same people right, the ones that molest innocent little children and so on. oh but they cant help it they "like" them, no its not because they are sick in the head

2005-08-02 [Linn Scarlett]: then iam sick in my head aswell, iam exactly the opposite

2005-08-02 [Linn Scarlett]: ff course you have a freakin point and i totally agree, but still a part of me feels sad... its not something i can control :(

2005-08-02 [JWOlette]: well i grew up in an all black neighborhood in the projects and being the only white kid was really hard cuz no one knew how to act around me and some made fun of me but i had a group of black boys that like raised me before my brother and his mom got custody of me

2005-08-02 [Delladreing]: its different to like someone older. but if that person is much much older and takes advantage of a minor then it is wrong. woulkd you defend someone who sexually molested a child and left them for dead with the words "but they cant help it, the like children"

2005-08-02 [Linn Scarlett]: hmz thats nice *huggs* ive been picked on -alot- because i apperently act/think/am different then the rest of my school-lot

2005-08-02 [Linn Scarlett]: yes ff course, but iam confident that there are actually those that -know- that it is wrong, contain them self, but cant stop longing for it, if you get my drift, its the possibilitie of some one like that existing. living in a life that has become a prison

2005-08-02 [Linn Scarlett]: oh its -different- to like older now? *sjees* thats kind of a lousy excuse :p

2005-08-02 [Delladreing]: ...dont fuck me off

2005-08-02 [Linn Scarlett]: i dont, iam just trying to explain how i feel

2005-08-02 [JWOlette]: yeah dela is rite and now i get made fun of for actin like im black i cant help it i was raised to talk the way i do and to act the way i do so i still get made fun of because im different its hard sometimes but i deal with it

2005-08-02 [Delladreing]: *mutters* no matter what way you look at it molestation and rape of children is wrong. if someone tried to do that to my child and came out with the words "but you dont know what its like living in my mind, i cant stop thinking about the children and everything i want to do to them" i wouldnt wait for them to be sent to prison. id kill the fucker right there.

2005-08-02 [Linn Scarlett]: we all just have to stick together, it seems that everybody has had a rough time growing up, in some way or another

2005-08-02 [JWOlette]: i think i would do the same dela

2005-08-02 [Delladreing]: these people, no these things strip the innocence from a child eventheir lives. they leave families broken and shattered, and the majority of them go to prison and are then realed in a few years. and the majority reoffend over and over and over. there was a man in the US charged with murder because he shot someone that raped his 9 year old daughter in her bed. what the fuck. if i had my way none of these bastards would make it to court, theyd be lined up agasint a wall and shot, one by one in the head.

2005-08-02 [Linn Scarlett]: *shrugs* sorry for feeling different

2005-08-02 [Delladreing]: yea well, when it happens to somone you love you will understand the truth of what you just said *stalks off*

2005-08-02 [Linn Scarlett]: it did. and i wont chance, no one can and no one will force me to. ive had it with people all my life wanting me to CHANCE i just want to be ME

2005-08-02 [Delladreing]: i am not trying to force you to change, i am pointingo ut the sheer idiocy of your words

2005-08-02 [Linn Scarlett]: then you maybe should think, that it is my opinion you are judging, me

2005-08-02 [Delladreing]: i know i am. i have every right to do so, its in human nature to judge. you cant hold that agasint me, i like to judge at times

2005-08-02 [SilverBlue82]: so we cannot choose who we are? that everything you are is already determined and you cannot change

2005-08-02 [Falx]: Oh. Hurrah. Predestination.

2005-08-02 [Maurer's conclusions]: You don't believe in free will?

2005-08-02 [Delladreing]: I believe in free will, but I also believe that those who harm our children in such grotesque manners should face the consequences. i know to be quite honest i am rather vehment (sp?) on the matter but i dont quite frankly care. this entire wiki was built on me not caring what people thought of my opinions

2005-08-02 [Falx]: O.o I'm confused. Who was the free will question directed at

2005-08-02 [Linn Scarlett]: ff course we have free will but some things cant be changed, as much as we want them too. if you are gay you cant just diside that you are going to be straight. you just cant. face it, some things are predestinated

2005-08-02 [Falx]: Yeah, but you CAN decide whether or not to act on those impulses.

2005-08-02 [hanhepi]: right , you cant choose to not be gay, but you can choose to not act on your desires. and its more important that pedophiles choose not to act on their desires. it IS a choice they make. "hmm i can molest this little kid, or i can choose not to..."

2005-08-02 [Priest Kel]: I agree with basically everyone here except [Linn Scarlett] on this subject. We choose who we are and what to do with our lives. We choose our paths along the road of life and simply acting on impulses can destroy a person and those around them. Especially impulses like that. No matter how strong the impulse, they can be fought and beaten.

2005-08-02 [Keii]: Unless they have no wish to beat these impulses. The excuse "thats who they are... blah blah blah" is bull-shit. They have a choice whether to get help or not... and to refuse it, is sick.

2005-08-02 [Priest Kel]: And by having no wish to beat those impulses, they give in. And I agree with you completely, and find that the "justice" system is rather...inadequate in some cases.

2005-08-02 [Delladreing]: its like justifying mass murder with "mummy never hugged me as a child" in my opinion

2005-08-02 [Priest Kel]: Lol Lovely example

2005-08-02 [Delladreing]: which by the way, as valid as that is for myself, wont be my excuse for my rampage. i will simply state the truth "the stupidity had to end"

2005-08-02 [Keii]: But it does make sense... heh...

2005-08-02 [Priest Kel]: Contain the rage Fiona...until the time comes when I can help you with it. At least wait until I can watch your back.

2005-08-02 [Delladreing]: ...now theres brave person whod want to be standing any hwere near mw when i go pschotic

2005-08-02 [Keii]: Are you sure 'brave' is the word? o.O

2005-08-02 [Priest Kel]: [Keii] has a point. Are you sure that you'd call it bravery Fiona? I mean, come on, we're talking about me here. *off in the distance* MOO!!!

2005-08-02 [Delladreing]: ...i was trying to be nice Kei :p

2005-08-02 [Keii]: Oops, sorry Dela... haha...

2005-08-02 [Delladreing]: If you werent one of my bunnified commanders id..well id laugh anyway lol

2005-08-02 [Priest Kel]: *looks confused* Moo?

2005-08-02 [Keii]: Haha... I'm Dela's Bunny Commander in her World Domination plans. But shhh... *hops about in stealth mode*

2005-08-02 [Priest Kel]: Ah, ok. That makes sense. I just hope I'll be spared her wrath

2005-08-02 [Keii]: To be spared her bunnie-steal wrath, then you must rise up and join her dictatorship... the bunnies shall tell you to.

2005-08-02 [Maurer's conclusions]: Bunny-steal wrath? What does that mean? She steals bunnies and is angry?

2005-08-02 [Keii]: Haha, she'll understand what I'm saying... I hope o.O

2005-08-02 [Priest Kel]: Perhaps you mean steel

2005-08-02 [Maurer's conclusions]: That would doubtless make much more sense...

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